Why do you need a hygienic shower in the toilet?

Wash with ice water, but we have this in our water supply all year round? Brrr.

It’s not for nothing that the photo shows red rubber boots next to the shower - after washing, the ENTIRE floor will be in water! And the water on the floor will be diluted with what has been washed from the appropriate places, and it will flow down your own thighs... Try, bending over the toilet, to wash yourself with this shower so as not to flood everything around you, if, of course, you want to thoroughly clean everything inside yourself wash, and not just pour on the outside of the ass and so on like a Muslim from a jug (like, the ritual of ablution is completed and it doesn’t matter that waste products spread over the legs and surroundings...).

Don't have hot water in your home? Anyway, you need to heat the water somehow. A hygienic shower is supplied with a mixture of hot and cold water, that is, warm water. No brrr, just wow.

Sergey, I recommend using a pressure regulator in conjunction with a hygienic shower. If you set the pressure to 1-1.5 bar, the splashes will not fly away.

Igor, as for the pressure regulator, it’s not a matter of pressure (water pressure), but the fact that, unlike a bidet, where the jet hits the backside without deviating anywhere and its height is easy to adjust, and BOTH hands are free and at the same time you can practically sit down while washing (i.e., the gap between the butt and the rim of the bidet is reduced to a minimum - there is nowhere for splashes to fly away), the hygienic shower head will have to be held with one hand and directed with it, and the butt will be washed with the second hand and at the same time pushed apart with the same hand “ rolls." This is where the clearance for the spray to escape is considerable, and the slightest deviation of the shower jet from the correct course (try with one hand and even hold it correctly in the cancer position!) generally leads to a flood. And just pouring water between the buttocks is just washing your own shit over them and your legs (a typical Muslim washing from a jug), the whole beauty of washing lies in thoroughly washing the sphincter area, because it is most vulnerable to contamination (this is where all sorts of inflammations and hemorrhoids form, and it is not easy to treat due to the location of the infection site), but many (especially those who grew up in Soviet-era houses or villages) believe that this is not necessary.

Igor, I didn’t write about brrrr - you’re supposed to wash your ass with cold water to avoid blood flow to the veins of the anus and, as a result, causing hemorrhoids. This is especially true for pennies.

About brrr this was the answer to Svetlana.
Now I answer you. In Russia, the cold water temperature is not comfortable for delicate areas. You definitely need to add warm water. The result will be approximately 25-30 degrees. This is comfortable cool water.

Sergey, I installed five hygienic watering cans. For yourself and your relatives. A pressure regulator is highly desirable.And with it there are no problems. In case of careless actions, you can spray with CLEAN water. Contaminated water does not flow outside the toilet. I repeat, the whole trick is in the presence of a pressure regulator

you just don’t have to remove the bathtub from the bathroom, then it’s convenient to wash yourself without having to put both feet in it

YURIY, place a hygienic shower near the toilet, then you will find out what is actually convenient.

Igor, one more thing - the shower is on the toilet, and you know what the toilet rim is like, and not everyone likes to sit on it, and if you wipe it every time, it takes too much time + extra. expenses for cleaning materials + it’s not at all comme il faut with a dirty backside to wipe the rim before washing. Therefore, either a bidet or a bathtub (as Yuri indicated above), only a bathtub preferably with flat and relatively wide sides, so that it is convenient to sit on its edge (traditional cast-iron scoop bathtubs are not very convenient in this regard, especially for short people and for penny-pinchers). And I won’t argue about the fact that it’s supposedly convenient to use a watering can, occupying one hand with it, because I’ve tried it and I know what kind of crap it is - no matter the pressure, a flood is guaranteed (even with clean water - one hell of a deal, or clean up immediately every time , preferably without leaving the toilet, or from your wife/mother/mother-in-law to rake the cradle), especially when thorough washing is required after stool of the appropriate consistency.

Igor, about brrr - yes, I later saw that it was Svetlana, but I will add on my own that not every toilet (in houses with hot water supply) has a hot water supply, and in houses with gas water heaters it is even less so.To do it on purpose is expensive and troublesome to maintain.

I forgot to clarify why I am talking about the rim of the toilet, and not its folding seat. If you wash yourself while sitting on the seat, then there will be no room for maneuver at all for the hand with the hygienic shower head, as well as for the second hand.

I don’t understand a bit, saving on toilet paper? That is, after taking a shower in the anal area, stand over the toilet until everything drips into the toilet? It would seem that even when using a shower, you still need to dry everything that gets wet. And then, the pressure should be strong enough to wash everything away. Otherwise, you will have to help with your hand, but again with a piece of paper. And I didn’t understand with dogs. A shower from the wall is good, but where to wash the dog? Right on the floor? In the toilet?

Sergey, I don’t understand what you mean. Neither I nor my relatives have such problems. Everything is convenient, nothing splashes

The pressure is regulated by a key on the watering can. Nothing splashes anywhere or runs down your thighs. Everything flows into the pot. The shower, of course, is only for washing the butt and female organs. I've been using it for 20 years now. About washing dogs and other crap, of course it’s nonsense!)

Sergey, although... I guess I understand. I told you that a pressure regulator is needed. There are no problems with him. Well, maybe you’ve also tried an uncomfortable watering can. Out of seven watering cans, I rejected two (not convenient enough). One watering can I really like.

Oksana, I also didn’t understand about saving paper. Perhaps we are talking about the Muslim version. I don't save paper. But after a shower, we use paper towels rather than toilet paper.
About pressure, on the contrary, you need to limit the pressure.You need to use your other hand. You can also use soap for intimate hygiene. We have men's soap for boys and women's soap for girls.
About dogs. I think a basin is used for washing small dogs, as well as for shoes.
Large dogs only have their feet washed in a bucket, watered from a hygienic shower.
In general, a hygienic shower is a VERY versatile thing. As soon as it appears, a use for it is immediately found and it is no longer clear how you can do without it.

Oksana, I’ll add. I am firmly convinced that there is not a single person who will not find use for a hygienic shower if he has one.
You just need to do the installation wisely.

Oksana K and Igor - under “add. expenses for cleaning materials” I meant either toilet paper or paper towels, which will have to be spent on wiping the rim of the toilet from drops of urine, etc., before sitting on it to wash (many people will also want to soap up the wiping paper for extra cleanliness, rather than dry rubbing, which takes time and consumes more paper). Why am I talking about the rim and not the folding seat? I explained above. Of course, after washing, you don’t need to sit and wait for everything to dry on its own, but you should dry yourself with either a paper or cloth towel.

Quote: “Sergey, maybe you’ve also tried an uncomfortable watering can. Out of SEVEN (!!!) watering cans, I rejected two (not convenient enough). I actually really like one watering can.”
Igor, i.e. Do you suggest using watering cans as in finding a life partner - you have to try many people in order to find the one who is suitable in all respects? :-))) But not everyone has the means, strength, time and desire for this...

Sergey, I have five watering cans in action (me and my relatives). I only rejected two.
I suggested that maybe you got a bad watering can if you have such problems. Although most likely the reason is pressure.

Sergey. About paper for wiping the rim from urine. I don't see any connection with the hygienic watering can. If it exists, it is “reverse”. Having a hygienic shower teaches you to do all the “things” on the toilet while sitting. For both girls and boys. So, urine, like all other biological fluids, is not in our options. Everything is very clean, pleasant, hygienic and convenient.

I no longer remember the type of watering can, because I used this shower several times in the apartment of my retired aunt (but she does the same thing in terms of splashing), and at home I wash myself, sitting on the edge of the bathtub.
As for boys doing everything while sitting, I can’t imagine this possibility and it’s not as comfortable as standing, and in general, sitting on the toilet is harmful. You are suggesting that we succumb to the modern trend, when some ladies, trying to make everyone equal in everything, demand that men in apartments sit on the toilets when doing minor needs, so as not to splash them (I saw similar articles on Yandex Zen). But I’m a scoop, and scoops spit such trends in the causal place :-)))

And about “About paper for wiping the rim from urine. I don’t see any connection with the hygienic watering can” - well, when washing, you’ll have to touch the rim with your thighs and butt, that’s the connection.

Sergey, without a hygienic shower, you also have to sit on the toilet from time to time. It's no worse with a watering can. In general, I concluded that you WANT to see problems, so you see them.Those who do not have a negative attitude towards using a watering can have no problems. The only objective thing is that you need to install a pressure reducer, it will help you use the watering can with comfort.

Sergey, in general, I think that a hygienic watering can should be near every toilet. There are no contraindications if installed correctly. There must be check valves, either explicit or built-in. This is to protect against contamination.
I will also add that there are several installation options. The classic option with a traditional mixer is not the only one.
And everyone can decide whether to use a hygienic watering can. But this can only be solved if there is something to try.

Igor, “There must be check valves in an explicit or built-in version. This is to protect against contamination.” - from mixing what and where? Please explain in a few words. What is arr. I know the valve, but I can’t imagine what kind of mixture is possible and where...
P.S. Nevertheless, I remain a supporter of a regular bidet, because while sitting on it you can operate with both hands at the same time (you move one “roll” apart, you wash with the other), thereby washing yourself more thoroughly, and in any case there will be less splashes and no dexterity (compared to using Hyginendus watering can) is not required.
And also (relevant for huts with water meters) - the water consumption in the bidet will be less due to the thinner stream (compared to a hygienic shower) and less time for washing due to the work of two hands. Another thing is that there is not always a place for a bidet, as, for example, in my apartment.

Sergey, the mixture can be hot water into cold water, or cold water into hot water (less often). Neighbors are suffering.
This is a big problem in modern cities. Happens frequently. There are different reasons. A hygienic watering can installed according to the classical scheme, but without a check valve, is one of the possible reasons. People leave the faucet open. Water does not flow from the watering can, because the lever on the watering can is closed, but there will be a mixture.
About the bidet. I believe that in modern conditions there are few places where a bidet can be installed and few people find it convenient. A hygienic watering can can be placed near any toilet without exception, and it will be useful to any person. I think that a watering can is a thousand times more correct than a bidet. According to the possibility of installation, ease of use, functionality and price.

Sergey, but the classic mixer is not the only option for a hygienic shower. I have never used it; in my cases, other options were more suitable. Among the options there are those in which mixing is not possible. That is, there is no need to give up a hygienic shower for fear of contamination.

Igor, I still don’t understand - where should OK be installed? “The neighbors are suffering.” - that is, I can mix hot water into the cold water supply system of the whole house? Something like this has not been heard of, otherwise it would be a well-known problem and not only among the neighbors of those who have hygiene.

OK should be in any place that excludes the possibility of contamination. But sometimes they are built-in. For example, in a reducer (pressure regulator)
Mixing is a very common problem. Google it, you will find many references. Sometimes people suffer for years and cannot find which neighbor is to blame. Or maybe it’s not always the neighbors, but the water supply network itself is to blame.
There are different reasons.

You need to wash your hole with cold water so that the hole shrinks and the intestine tightens in the prevention of hemorrhoids.

When installing a hygienic shower, I strongly recommend installing a mixer with a thermostat, otherwise you can easily burn a tender spot, because There are often jumps in the temperature of the water in the system for various reasons, especially at the moment of switching on, plus, the temperature regulator that thermostats have allows you to set the desired temperature in advance, not too warm, but not too cold, about 25-30.

We have been using this shower for more than ten years. Apart from the convenience, there are no inconveniences.

When installing a sink with a faucet that has a watering can, there are no problems with pressure and temperature.
You regulate all this directly with the tap.

For those who don’t have hot water, I can suggest a quick heating tap. I use it at the dacha and it’s a convenient thing.

However, it is more convenient to wash using a regular bathtub and shower head. Because the floor is damp every time after using a hygienic shower. Still, they are more convenient for women to use.

People, are you living in the 19th century or what? What the hell are ancient, uncomfortable bidets and hygienic showers, after which splashes fly in all directions? Electronic bidet covers have been invented a long time ago, even damn Samsung makes them in Korea, prices range from $200-400, all you need is electricity and cold water, and the size for a specific toilet. I’ve had a long, wide bidet lid Samsung SBD-AB970S for 6 years now; I took the toilet underneath it with the longest seat possible, it turned out very comfortable, a large seat, and not a small hole (as in small models).

Holy shit, there were experts in washing, and they were all men! 🙂

Alexander, I’ve already said this, I’ll repeat it. The system must have a reducer (pressure regulator). At a pressure of no more than 1 atm in the watering can, there will be no splashes.
Everyone needs a hygienic shower (women, men, children)

Denis, the bidet is truly an outdated, inconvenient thing. But the watering can is much more convenient and versatile than the lid with a nozzle for the toilet that you are talking about. And the watering can is cheaper.

Without soap and a towel nearby, this is a pointless thing.

Is soap and towel a problem?
I think it's a small thing.
In my family we use paper towels. Soap for intimate hygiene is also nearby, but we don’t use it every time.
But the problem is neither one nor the other.

Igor, in the system before apartment wiring? Or just in front of the watering can? It is problematic to install in front of the watering can if the system is already installed and tiles have been laid. In this case, maybe there is some alternative?

Eh, Euro-Asians, in short, then Russians...! I read the comments, it’s so inconvenient, it’s so bad and cold, like children, she...-bo... And by the way, I mean between the buttocks, Eastern people have been washing away their charms since time immemorial. Even historians know that even the warriors of the Tatar-Mongol yoke carried with them special jugs for this purpose. To confirm this, I can add that, for example, in the city of Kaspiysk, rep. Dagestan, you can go to any public place where there is a toilet and there must be either a similar shower or a jug with a thin spout for ablution. I will also note that they stand on the right side, and wash the painful places, as required by the Holy Quran, strictly with their left hand.There is also a prayer room nearby. So, any person who respects himself and the Koran always enters the dining room completely clean and tidy. To whom, to whom, you can safely offer your hand for a handshake.
So, friends, keeping your secret places clean is even fashionable. And you shouldn’t hope that the water is cold, oh, everything is ticklish there, etc.

Have you ever experienced how to hold a jug of water with one hand (by the way, it is not that light, especially when full), and rinse more or less thoroughly between the rolls with your left hand (especially for those who are right-handed)? It's just washing your own shit all over your ass, crotch, legs and flooding the floor with water mixed with shit. I read that in the UAE, in city toilets, after each visitor a cleaner comes in and washes the floor, otherwise after several people relieve themselves there will be a “Persian Gulf”, given that there are not jugs, but hoses (Abdullah - lei, don’t be sorry). But the Saudis are rich and can afford this.
And I can imagine how “hygienic” the handle of this jug is, because, sure enough, it is periodically intercepted with the left hand during and after washing... It’s literally a biological weapon of constant action :-)))

Looks like the tundra rules!

I agree with the author. Before laying the tiles, I installed a cold line from the collector in the grooves. and mountains water and installed the kit. After laying the tiles, I installed all the handles, etc. Very satisfied. It’s convenient to wash cats’ litter boxes, the toilet itself can be “served” for yourself))
Important. After shutting off the water, release the pressure in the watering can. (Daniel)

In order not to release the pressure, I wrapped the button with electrical tape and opened and closed everything.

Alexander, I put a pressure regulator (reducer) in front of the watering can hose.But this regulator has TWO purposes for me.
1. Reducing pressure for convenient use of the watering can. By the way, each model of watering can requires its own pressure.
2. Reducing the pressure on the hose when the watering can is closed. The thing is that I usually don’t have opening and closing in front of the watering can. I make several different options for connecting the watering can and almost always it is not the classic option (with a separate mixer with a handle).
Therefore, in order for the flexible hose to have an easy life, I keep it under very little pressure. But you still need to remember to change the flexible hose every 3-5 years.
Alternative option? I also did an alternative. Just after the classic mixer with a handle.
Unscrew the hose from the watering can or from the mixer. There is a rubber gasket there. I also put the diaphragm there (in addition to the rubber gasket). I use such apertures quite often. By the way, this is my personal know-how, I have not seen descriptions of others doing this. But in vain.
In my opinion, apertures need to be set often. Always on the toilet tank. Sometimes for classic faucets.
What is a diaphragm. This is a washer with a hole of 2.0-2.5 mm (depending on how). If the water is cold or warm, then the washer is metal or plastic. If the water is hot, then I only have a metal washer. I use nickel coins as a metal washer. 5 kopecks usually works well. I drill a 2-2.5 mm hole in the coin and that’s it. Give it a try.

Reader, you will also read my message about the aperture, maybe you will also like it.

Can you be more specific - how do you mean “wrapped with electrical tape” and “opened and closed everything”?

Our usual "collective farm". Out of the blue. And the system is technologically well thought out.First you open the one-armed one, then the shut-off valve into the watering can and operate the lever on the watering can. When closing the one-armed one, you don’t have to think about where to point the “wrapped with electrical tape”, the shut-off valve on the watering can works. But after that = press once on the watering can, and that’s it.

Igor, thank you for your answer. I will definitely look for a reducer to install it in front of the hose. And there’s probably no point in using a diaphragm if a mixer is installed in front of the watering can.

I read it and decided, for me this is unnecessary trouble. I solved the problem in my own way and we are happy with it.

I wrapped the button on the watering can with electrical tape and that’s it.